Podcast: Reverend Dr. Jacqui Lewis, Fierce Love

Reverend Dr. Jacqui Lewis is the first female and first Black Senior Minister at the historic Collegiate Church in New York City, which dates to 1628. Her new book, Fierce Love: A Bold Path to Ferocious Courage and Rule-Breaking Kindness That Can Heal the World was featured in Spirituality & Health’s Books We Love 2021 and is available now.

Read Rev. Lewis’ guest column in the September/October 2021 issue.

In this episode, Rabbi Rami and Rev. Lewis talk Ubuntu, devolution, racism and oppression in religious systems, finding hope and love in the darkness, and much more.

“Though we are devolving, and though we are in a class war, an ideological war, a caste war, we can change it around because we have done this. It is true that there have been incredible seasons of oppression, and devolution, and oppression that have been followed by good people of moral courage standing up and saying ‘No, we are just not going to let this be the way we live.’”

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